AF SPECWAR Recruiting Changes
EPISODE 41
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RETIRED MSGT “BULL” BULLARD WAS A FOUNDATIONAL MEMBER OF THE AFSPECWAR RECRUITING EFFORT. HE PROVIDES LOTS OF INSIGHT FROM HIS EXPERIENCE, NOT JUST ABOUT RECRUITING, BUT ABOUT LIFE. LISTEN UP, ENJOY, EARN EACH BREATH.
INTRO
Nikki Silva 00:04
You're listening to the ones ready podcast, a team of Air Force Special Operators forged in combat with over 70 years of combined operational experience, as well as a decade of selection instructor experience. If you're tired of settling, and you want to do something you truly believe in, you're in the right place. Now, here's your host, former prep course Ops Superintendent and current Special Reconnaissance training guru, Trent Seegmiller.
Trent 00:27
Hello, everyone, and welcome to another exciting episode of the Ones Ready podcast. I want to welcome you all here boys, girls, brothers, sisters, future teammates, and the casual observers. I know you're out there and I still appreciate you. So, go ahead while you're at it, hit subscribe, hit like leave us some comments. Jared is not here today. So, you'll have to wait for another time to jump in on some short jokes. The company in focus today is Out of Regs Pomade that's Out of Regs with an s not a z because they're awesome and they're not something else. So, What I use is Out of Regs Beach Bum and it is fantastic. It is the only PJ approved hair product that's approved. So, it's perfect. So, go ahead, jump on the website order yourself some pomade or do some beach bum. It's awesome. It's like coming back from the beach. Put in your hair. You'll look like well, you look like better than me, but with the same level of hair, so you're welcome. Not to be like too extravagant today. Today, we have one of my good friends. His name is Rick Bullard or you can just call him Bull. He worked for the 330th Recruiting Squadron. They're the ones that bring in all the off SPECWAR guys into the military. So, without further ado, Rick do you mind, introducing yourself and telling us a little bit about your background.
BULL’S BACKGROUND
Bull 01:55
Sure, hello. And I really help Stop my hair game up because now that I'm retired, I believe the receding hairline is just starting to kick in. So, a little bit about my background. 20 years Air Force started my days out at Pope Air Force base for about the first six years. So, there I was in a maintenance Squadron. Really awesome that I got Pope Air Force Base because obviously there's a lot of things to do there. You've got a we cater to the 82nd airborne and we cater to the 21 STS there and got to meet a lot of really cool people. We got to do a lot of really cool missions. I won't bore upper body to death with those. But fast forward to the last three years that I was in, I got the interesting opportunity to become a part of the 330th Recruiting Squadron. I'd already been in recruiting for several years and got the phone call that, hey, we're going to stand up a Recruiting Squadron just for six career fields. And we think you're the right guy for the job. I don't know why they thought that. But that's the way things go sometimes. We all went into it with a mindset that we were going to do it the way that we had learned from the past that we were going to make some adjustments and actually try to send quality folks to these career fields that desperately needed people for the incredible things that you do. And so pretty humble to get to be a part of that. And they try to said I was kind of like a multifunction tool for that Squadron or Swiss Army knife.
Aaron 03:53
Every Squadron has that belly button where you just know if you walk into their office, no matter what the what the request is, that person is going to figure it out for you. You know, I have had the luxury of having several, like logistics female SNCO is that I could just go to that new every single process and every single world. So that's definitely how you were how you were described. And I think that's exactly who that, you know, that's who you were. That's what role you played for, especially to start the 330th.
Bull 04:18
Well, I'll take any compliments I can get. So, you know, keep them come. No, I, you know, that's where I met Trent. So, they would come up with the idea to integrate all of the Special Operations Recruiters or Special Warfare Recruiters now. integrate them into these career build, so they had a better understanding of what they were talking about. If they didn't have a background that dealt with any of that curriculum. They were cop or they were mechanic. We felt like we could give them a little taste and the best way to do that was to take them to prep. And other school houses the PJs who else Combat Control Schoolhouse who else and just immerse their butt right into training and that's kind of where I don't know if I made a name for myself or whatever, but I felt right at home. I've always kind of been into this a little bit. But I really enjoyed that. And then I ended up at Prep as the Special Warfare Training Green Liaison. That's a mouthful to say, believe me. But, you know, from there, the rest is history.
Trent 05:25
By immerse you mean, we brought in other recruiters and gave them a little taste of what it's like to be a Special Warfare candidate. And it was nothing but a good time. Just Smash.
Brian 05:39
Yeah, I guess is a step up from what we used to do, because we used to just have the recruiters pile in because recruiting school was across the base. So, we'd have guys pile into the classroom there. And we did some slides like this is what PJ's do this is kind of what our pipeline looks like. And then they sit there for an hour or two and then say, all right, let's take you out of the pool. You can watch some guys You know, gasping for air for a little bit, and then you go on your merry way. And you never really think about it again, until that one candidate comes up. They're like, Hey, I'm interested in pair rescue, and you're like, let me just google stuff on the internet again. So getting them to experience you know, what the students are actually going to go through, helps prep them for, like you said, the PAST test and just all the future, you know, things that these people are going to go to so talking about that kind of thing. What do you see is the biggest changes that you implemented or changes from the recruiter side and then how do you get a guy How do you change the status quo for getting a guy from off the street to AFSW?
Bull 06:43
Great question. You know, when we went into this, obviously, there was already processes in place. guy or girl comes in, hey, I want to be a part of this career field. Okay, cool, man. We got you covered. You would go you know, take your ads. I'll take your mouse and then We would put you through a PAST test. And that was what was believed to be wow man, this guy can slay the PAST test so obviously he's going to be the next PJ.
Aaron 07:13
You know what's funny about that I wasn't within 100 miles that was the rule back when I cross train was you had to be within 100 miles of a unit and if you were then you had to have your test administered by a PJ or Combat Rescue Officer or not yeah at that time crows like basically now one of the what we call the aspect warfare career fields, right, but I wasn't so like I got my test administered my past test by my E-5 supervisor that was also a phys tech you know, as a guy he's a great dude and he knew what he you know, he knew what the career was about but that's how I got in they were just like, yeah, here's your PAST that show up in and I was like, Alright, cool.
Brian 07:47
Air Force style push-ups are different than INDOC style push.
Aaron 07:50
Yeah. Well, I it was a little different because I knew what I was getting into. He knew to so he helped me to a really high standard and he knew we weren't playing around. So, it was it was good. What's up easy thanks for actually get 100 I'm just saying no, I didn't I didn't I got 52 push-ups to start Brian Don't be mean, any took away 40 Shut up.
Bull 08:08
Yeah, that's, that's kind of a mindset we went into as well. And luckily for me, when I first got into recruiting service, we have the SOR program. And I think his name is Greg or Gary Waldheim. Sorry if I'm butchering that, buddy, if you're listening but old combat controller, and he would go out, he would have missed her past us and guys would pass and he would like, no, it's not going to work. And this obviously just blew our minds. What do you mean brother, like, you know, he's qualified to do this job? So, it was just a part of the test that he would pull through like, he felt like if you took something away from them, you know, they like see how they react a little bit and then he would put them through a real workout and then another workout and then there was no slap on the back there was no nothing you know, where's recruiting service at the time was like, Man, you pass about this, we're going to buy your car.
Aaron 09:10
So, thinking about your experience with, you know, seeing people all the way from the very beginning, like civilian off the street all the way through their, you know, development sessions, which again, like, we'd love to talk to one of those developers. So, if you know anybody put in a good word for the Ones Ready team, we'd love to have mon it'd be great. It'd be super-duper awesome. But uh, yeah, we'll figure it out. Yeah, my man put a bug in somebody's ear for us, you know. But what are some of the things that you've seen that people can prepare for? They ask us all the time. What should I start looking ahead to? So, what are some of the things that you've seen in the development sessions and all the way through prep? That people no kidding now can start preparing for to be successful?
PREPARING FOR SUCCESS
Bull 09:45
Yeah, well, you know, obviously, I got to travel around I got to go to most of the developer’s development sessions and everybody has a little bit of a different style. Obviously, they come from all different career fields, and these guys are extremely good at what I do and I have huge heart so they're trying their best to take a Joe Schmo sitting on the couch that hasn't ever exercised the day in his life to the right mindset the right nutrition the right workouts and moving forward. You know, some of the trends that I saw especially once I got to the prep level was people do unfortunately still slip through the cracks there they can rock it out on a PAST test, but then they get in the pool for the first time and it's different only
Aaron 10:30
There's a lot of like, there's levels to this game and again, just like Trent was saying earlier, you know, Brian mentioned on a previous podcasts, you know, you think you're great, you're like oh, I'm knocking out 70 push-ups I'm smashing this thing and this is awesome. Well, that harsh reality of the first time that somebody looks at you and goes nope, nope, nope, nope, you know six or seven times in a row you know that's tough and the pool there's levels to the pool there's being uncomfortable by yourself and then there's performing in the moment it's different.
Bull 10:56
Absolutely. Not a that's the that will be my biggest advice. On a brand new on the street would be like, Look, you're essentially about to learn another language. And it's one of the hardest languages in the world to learn. And you're not going to start out by having a conversation about astrophysics in this language. You're going to start out with Hello, goodbye and work your way up.
Aaron 11:17
That's a fantastic way to look at it. That's I've never heard it described by that, like are, you know, in those terms are like that. That's awesome.
Trent 11:38
Alright, man. So, my next question is when people start working with the developers, when people come off the street, and they get the workouts and all this other kind of stuff, they might have a misconception about how much work they need to do on their own versus just coming to the development sessions. Do you have any like numbers you can throw at us about how much work they should be doing versus just come to the development sessions in order for them to be successful?
Bull 12:05
That's a fantastic way of thinking about it. And what I have to relate it to is the civilian population that I work with. And a lot of this similar type of question comes up quite often, it's like running a marathon next year I'm going to lose 20 pounds this year, or, you know, whatever the goal in places and they're like, what, what should be my focus on nutrition? What should be my focus on the workouts or the mindset? And my answer is always, focus 100% on each one is cliche or silly as that may sound, you know, that's, that's kind of the way I feel like you give 100% attention to your nutrition 100% attention to your workouts. And in this case, you know, give 100% of attention to whatever your developers telling you to do. And give 100% attention to what you're doing around the clock when you're not with that developer because you're going to maybe have two development sessions a month, that's not going to be enough to get you ready for what's to come.
Aaron 13:07
Every time I hear that question, I just want to, I'm a little bit more aggressive. When people ask questions. I'm always the guy on the Instagram that's on like, did you Google this? This question is already answered, like, we already talked about this, and you know, this podcast or whatever, so I'm always that guy. But it always cracks me up when people are like, why should I pay 80% attention to this and whatever, like, this is your life. This is your career, you want to go do this and you want to live the motto if you were you know, if you're a PJ, you want to say, that others may live or, or eyes forward or whatever it is that you want to, you know, whatever your why is, why would you only devote 80% attention to parts of it? Don't you want to give everything 100%? Like, that's kind of like a mindset switch that is a little bit hard to figure out for people that you know, haven't figured it out yet.
Brian 13:47
Yeah, and I think for those guys that are thinking about it, they're trying to do the equations in their head. It's not talking about you having 500% or 1,000% is talking about every single task you write it down and these are one of the keys that I tell to some of the guys that They're trying to prep out there, like you write down in your journal Sunday night, this is what I'm going to do. And that is 100% of your attention is devoted to planning out your week. And then you wake up that next morning, 100% of your attention is going to get your stuff ready to get your gym clothes on. And then 100%
Aaron 14:16
Yeah, hundred percent, you pack your meals ahead of time, and you got that first meal that day or that second post workout meal of the day,
Brian 14:24
when you're doing something, but people that are the most effective in life are not the people that are doing 20,000 things at a time, because I had a long, long period of time where I was juggling, you know, business, kids, school, job, all that other stuff. And it wasn't that I was doing 10% of each thing. You know, marginally well, it was when I was doing something it was 100% of my effort was involved in 100% my focus in that thing and making sure that I did the best that I can with the time that I had.
Trent 14:52
And that's it for you guys. Yeah, sorry. That moment will come in the pipeline where it will require 100% of your focus attention. In an effort to get past that event, so if you start Oh, yeah, that thing now, and then develop those skills, because it's a skill, just like everything else that'll allow you to reach down focus and then get past and be successful.
Brian 15:14
Yeah, I think those things are huge out there. So yeah, great comment. So, going back to the beginning, I know we used to have as an end Doc, we always had a, you know, our kind of our horse, I guess, for lack of a better term, but, you know, as a guy that we're like, secretly, we're watching them throughout the development course because we used to have a development for course, before prep was around it was two weeks long, prior to you actually going into in duck so we're just trying to figure out you know, what's driving a guy and try and pay attention to their facial expressions as we got things a little bit more difficult. And we would just be like, is this guy going to make it inevitably we're pretty much always wrong, except one guy every once in a while. We just get lucky and pick it but what is Some of the things that you guys are setting up is obviously your kind of the initial people that they're going to end up meeting. When you set up the 330th would you guys set up for, you know, the attitudes, behavior look for like, if you were to tell a recruiter like this guy, I think is probably going to make it or this guy's not going to make it and what do you what are some of the things that you guys look for?
Bull 16:20
Sure, I think it goes back to what I was saying about the immersion part of it is getting the source the recruiters out there and letting them meet people from all different walks of life that are in these career fields, and picking their brains about attributes and where they grew up. And you know, how things were for them when they joined and a lot of times, we kind of elaborate you know, I grew up this Ralph and I had to walk uphill both ways. And, you know, that kind of stuff, but Oh, but no, you know, one of the, I think everybody's kind of got their own style when they're trying to determine whether a person will make a good fit for these groups. And, you know, mind goes back to when I worked with the SOR in Pennsylvania where I would just take something away from, I would just ask, you know, I would watch them do a set of pull ups and man is a great pull ups, this isn't going to work out for you and I would walk away and just watch how they react. And the people that we typically want for these career fields are the ones that are tapping me on my shoulder like Hey, wait a minute guy. I am good enough for this stuff. I really am going to pull this off, you know?
Aaron 17:43
So, after the development process and after you get them through that, that first one right, like they get in the door, the pull ups are there but so is the character you know. So, as you know, those attributes that we're looking for, whether it be problem solving, or interpersonal communication, all those things like they're hitting all the flags, we're like, yep, this is this is it. They go that get all the way through the initial process, what are some things that they can look at? Like? What kind of tools is prep going to give them, you know, not only for basic training, but then like, you know, aspect warfare prep? And then more importantly, you know, what do you see that our mistakes? We've already touched on some of them, but what kind of mistakes are they making in the dev program? Whether it's not devoting enough, you know, enough time to mental preparation or, you know, not making all the development sections? Or assertions? What are some of those mistakes that you see in the development program?
MISTAKES IN PREPARATION
Bull 18:29
I'll touch on the first part of that is, you know, one of they're going to be given one way to get to prep, essentially. And that's pretty awesome place to go. Especially if you're the kind of people like I assume the four of us are, you're going to go every single day, you're going to work out eight hours, you know, you're going...The strength and conditioning staff as you know, has so much experience and I think what two of those guys either work for played in the NFL, you know, have a doctor, sports psychology on staff who've got run coaches that nitpick every single little biomechanics of every part of your run to make you more efficient. And then you get over to the swim and you know, they're just all experts and they're making you more efficient through the water and they're teaching you breath holds you in a cover and all this stuff, and this is the place to make mistakes. You know, we're not evaluating you there. I mean, we are but it's not going to hold up against you in a court of law at the land of A&S. So, but you know, some of the mistakes I think that can be avoided and this is just by exercise science background is you can make yourself more durable, you can actually train to have stronger bones and, you know, healthier joints. And I think what happens a lot of times is, you know, we get into an exercise routine, or we're, you know, running or whatever the case is. And we don't focus on up on recovery, or, you know, the off time that we have, we're just sitting on the couch or in front of a computer, driving a car or we're not putting stress that is needed to build stronger bones and make our joints more durable. So, I would think, you know, like outside of like your development sessions, go for a walk, get a job working construction, or go to Walmart and get the job or the guys like, you know, throwing the dog poo bags all day long. It's just going to build up those tolerances and make you more durable to an injury. And there's a lot of different techniques and programs out there but that would just be my recommendation is kind of get up off your butt and stay moving as much as possible. And I say that got long winded on this one. We put watches, little Garmin watches on these applicant’s day one of basic training, not prep, not A&S. They want a basic training and the distance covered they want it basic training was 10 miles. We're pleasantly surprised to you know, we just kept having these little nagging lower body lower extremity injuries. And we couldn't explain them the shin splints and the blisters on the feet and why well these kids aren't walking enough. Sure enough, they went off the bus 10 miles I didn't I didn't realize that either when I was there.
Trent 22:30
So, but I mean, that's interesting, because like, between the recruiters and prep and the developers, there's like that feedback loop. Right? So, what are the developers trying to put all that together? Like, what is what is really their job and how much feedback you guys get from them? And, you know, like, I don't know, like, what are they looking for? Or what do they do for the candidates? And like, what's the interaction between the developers which I think are misunderstood for the general public or they just don't understand it? Or maybe I'm just stupid and the recruiting Squadron because it's kind of unique.
Bull 23:02
Yeah, at first it was very much just that they were coming in as developers to do the PAST test. And this is prior to the 330th being stood up. And they had to be the developers that had to be the ones that really just signed off on that part of the process. One, the 330th stood up until present, it is that they work with each individual and mentor them and guide them. And then they are part of the, what we call the go or no go process. So when anybody shows up to basic training, or prep or anything outside of reserve and guard, they have had to have gotten a go from their developer, meaning that developers saying, I'm fairly confident that this is a good applicant, I'm fairly confident that this person is going to make it that's in collaboration with the Special Operations Recruiter and as we know It's not a perfect process, but it is a work in process. So, it does require a lot of feedback. And, you know, some of these guys is, you know, Chiefs in Pararescue Johnny down there and I thought Johnny was going to do really well and Johnny washed out, you know, and I just, they can't wrap their head around it. You know, when you were dealing with what I would tell the developers a lot of times it's like, when you were dealing with that person, they were going home, getting in their Tommy Hilfiger blanket, cuddling up with their puppy. Hopefully I didn't get you guys any trouble but the rabbit hole there. But you know that's the premise of it. And the developers do reach out quite a bit and we sent them every single product that ever came out their prep that just gave trend analysis, whether it was from the OFT results or the PAST test results or it was me just standing beside them in training asking them hey man, I understood that you were a stud back in Minnesota. What's going on? You know, what's the deal? And you know, I would relay that back to the developer Yeah, I didn't necessarily have to work a chain of command to do it I just picked up the phone and said Hey Dan, one of your guys down here looking in your system and things like this guy was just crushing it you know when he was working with you on the beach, but now he's over here Lackland and he is not doing so well. So just something to keep an eye on. You know, something to brief the next person up that they may be the biggest star in the world but I have to make you know, pull CQ duty in the middle of the night and you don't get that eight hours of perfect rest, could throw you off a little bit.
Trent 26:51
So little and we've talked about that before. I think the stress that they're not anticipating just joining the military and moving away from home and all the new stuff and You know, showering with a whole bunch of people and an open bay and all that other kind of stuff that you know the stress will affect you and decrease your performance no matter what kind of stress it is. So, like, while BMT is not necessarily physically difficult, like you said, if you come from Minnesota and you come to San Antonio, it's a lot of changes for your brain to process all at the same time. So y'all need to be ready for that stuff.
Brian 27:36
Yeah, but I think like what you're talking about is a huge deal. Also, because those guys that start out, they start with a lot of enthusiasm because they're all pumped up. They just finished listen to one of the podcasts and like, you know, I'm going to go crush this. And that last, that's the motivation that everyone talks about, like, you know, motivation is the only thing that's going to make you through it. Yeah, it'll get do sometimes. But, you know, at the end state, you have to have that purpose for what's going to drive you through those more difficult times, I kind of liken it to what it's like to just start up on a mountain, you know, you start, you say, I'm going to start up on this 10 mile hike or whatever. And you are super enthusiastic. And then by mile five, you get blisters all over your feet, you're super tired. And like, the sun's beating down on, you're like, wow, this is really way harder. And then your friends, like, we could just, you know, go back down now hit it up again later. And then, you know, you got to have that purpose. You could be like, nope, you got to be that person. That's, I told my family, I told everyone that I'm going to finish this, we're going to climb to the top, we're going to get a frickin picture at the top and finish this thing out. So, don't be that guy that's like, you know, we could just turn around or whatever. It's the same kind of deal. You know, you start out with that enthusiasm, halfway through, and all the reality hits all the foot pain and all the other you run out of food, water, whatever it is, you didn't plan correctly and you You just end up in Hurtville and you're like, yeah, I could probably just turn back, maybe I'll go back again another day, or you plan correctly, pack correctly, and you're with a lot of good friends that are going to push you and you make it to the top. So, it's pretty much you know, the same type of deal and it's hard to tell those guys that are actually going to be able to do it. Like you were saying, I was, you know, an indoor construction my job was to actually put these guests to do it and I'd see them at their worst times. But I still had trouble figuring out like, this guy's definitely going to make it because we had candidates that were like, hundred and 20 solids in dock push-ups like no joke. One that revealed how much I liked him right now. I'm just kidding. But you know it just and then that guy, that same guy would quit a week later. So obviously, you know, something hit him purpose something, he didn't plan for him and he was just like, I can't do this and he leaves and he was a stud. So, it's difficult to nail down those guys.
Bull 30:22
There's a lot to be said about a support group too. And you mentioned that and you're just more likely to succeed with the same mindset people around you and upper sigma are talking about this with you know, guys that were struggling with like, next time you're struggling at the pool lock eyes with the dude next to you. And, you know, just give him a little wink or you know, a thumbs up or something. Just realize that you're not the only one that's sucking right now it's sucking for everybody. Not enough times not you know, that's enough to push a person just that one extra second or one extra minute that it took not to SIE that day.
Brian 31:04
Definitely, totally. I'd say starting with a team is huge. Is there anything in particular if a guy was like, I just watched, you know, whatever video on social media and I want to do that for a job, what would you say is the next best step for them to take in order to start on that job and begin their SW journey, so to speak?
THE NEXT STEP
Bull 31:27
Sure, man, I say this all the time. You know, the guys are in training and they've got a big log on their shoulder or, you know, it's hot and cold or wet, or whatever the case is, that you didn't see this on YouTube. You know, there's so much stuff out there but all Yeah, so if you're out there right now you're listening. You know, the easiest way to do this is to go to Airforc.com. They have a Special Warfare tab right there. And it gives you a location for your nearest Special Operations or Special Warfare Recruiter. Whatever the Common stuff these days. But other than that, you can also go to any air force recruiting office. And they will put you through the normal qualifications that takes to join the Air Force. And you ask to be referred to the Special Operations recruiter. And that's where you will meet your developer and you will get rocking with the stuff. So that's the easiest way to explain it. Does that make sense? So that they don't, they just like I just said they can go to a normal Air Force recruiter and get referred over. Unfortunately, there's, I think 100 Special Operations Recruiters in the whole world and all A lot of times you're just not near, if you grew up in a rural area, we probably don't have that recruiter near you. But the next big town over is going to have an Air Force recruiter. And they can work it and do just like we're doing right here, zoom call, just try to get to know you a little bit and then schedule you to come out to the next pass test or next development session, or whatever the case is. And that gets pretty tough. You know, now some of the challenges that developers have out there is, some of these applicants live 8-9 hours away, you know, how can we ask this person two or three times a month to show up for a development session? And that's part of the things that we're working on is to get more developers up more SORs out there, but for now, no, you just, you know, contact the Air Force, just like you guys are saying is that redundant thing? I believe every time I had to do an interview, I had to mention Airforce.com like a minimum will six times.
Brian 34:06
The minimum number of ads that are in a video so they skip through and they have to listen to the thing again perfect. So along that same vein for those guys like you're saying we're minimal manning for recruiting right now those guys that are interested in becoming an SW recruiter, what would you tell them? How do they go about doing that?
Bull 34:28
if you are a beret wearer and you would like to come over and do Special Warfare recruiting, that's a pretty much a direct link you had you can you can go straight in a lot of good examples. Antonio, we had a PJ that crossed over and now he's, you know, the local San Antonio Special Operations Recruiter.
Trent 35:28
That dude almost talks to me into becoming a PJ.
Aaron 35:40
So, we're going to get to our last question. We always ask our guests to come on and you're going to have a particular insight that we're excited to hear but man, boil it down. Final answer. You got one piece of advice that you can give to everybody out there that's on the grind for a and as right now we get 10 1215 DMs a day of people just out there crushing it and we always repost your videos by the way, so sentiment was Let's see you guys get after it. And then it motivates us to, to get out and get our own workout as well. But so, you got one thing, Rick that you can tell all those people, those guys those gals that are on the ground right now the one piece of advice for how they can be successful in A&S.
ADVICE FOR A&S
Bull 36:13
What is it go other than everything we've talked about would say be too dumb to quit? And the reason that I say just absolutely be too dumb to quit is because a lot of things and A&S are untimed, they're unknown distance there, you know, supposed to see how you will react, not knowing how far you got to go. And if you quit on my one, and all you have to do is go to 1.1 miles. That's pretty damn silly. so, to speak, you're going to quit, man, that's my answer.
Trent 37:39
Before we kind of wrap this thing up anything you want to say or any way to get ahold of you?
Bull 37:43
Well, like I said, I'm retired. But this is a true passion of mine. Like to get back into it in civilian format. Do it in a blink of an eye. Love the community love all you guys. If anybody has any questions for me, just I'm sure you can reach out through Ones Ready. On one phone call away one text or Facebook message or whatever you want to do to get ahold of me. Glad to help.
Trent 38:20
Yeah, man. Like, if you don't know out there, you know, Rick, he was there from the beginning, he spent a lot of time helping everybody out. You know, he was there for a lot of the physical sessions at prep and also heard a lot of the counseling so he knows a lot about everything. And it's also on the road all the time, trying to get you all in the door and give you the best information possible. So, and we appreciate you coming on. And yeah, so things we talked about today. Take the opportunity. Get out there. Go to the recruiter. I don't know if we want to hit that again. Well, how many times that that's episode four or five, six. Yeah, the system isn't easy. And there's going to be challenges just to get into the Air Force. But a lot of the onus is on you to do what you need to do. Get to the people you need to get to, and, you know, get your mindset where it needs to be. And just like we say, all the time you get there you get through the pipeline you get on team. One thing I'm 100% confident about is if you're a hard worker and you make it, it's 100% worth it. So, go ahead and hit up the recruiter, if you if you want to get in so that's it for this episode. Make sure you like us Subscribe, leave comments. Want to thank the other companies really quick. Eberlestock, Strike Force Energy, Alpha Brew Coffee, Out of Regs Pomade, Hoist, you guys save my life every day. Get out there, train hard accomplish all your goals be the person you want to be. This Ones Ready signing off. We'll catch you next time.
TLDR: There are a ton of resources out there to help you out, but at the end of the day only one person determines wether or not you’re succesful: YOU.
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