SR with Garrick Lewis
EPISODE 19
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WELCOME TO ANOTHER SOON TO BE REDACTED ONES READY PODCAST! ON THIS EPISODE THE TEAM CHATS WITH GARRICK LEWIS. CURRENT SPECIAL RECONNAISSANCE LEADER.
INTRO
You're listening to the Ones Ready podcast, a team of Air Force Special Operators forged and combat with over 70 years of combined operational experience as well as the decade of selection instructor experience. If you're tired of settling and you want to do something you truly believe in, you're in the right place. Now here's your host, former prep course, ops superintendent and current Special Reconnaissance training guru, Trent Seegmiller.
Trent (00:28):
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Garrick Lewis, SR OG, is todays guest.
WHO IS GARRICK LEWIS
Garrick (01:57):
Hello. Hello everybody. My name's Garrick Lewis. I'm a Master Sergeant in the Air Force.
Started military career in the Army as a forward observer calling in artillery.
Got out, went to college. Sept 11 happened.
Joined the Air Force as an Air Traffic Controller.
Aaron (04:49):
So man, let's pause there. Garrick, you just covered so much ground. So first, so what college you go, you were Ford observer in the Army. You were calling in some artillery stuff big infantry style. I can't talk tonight, but so you took a break. Where'd you go to school?
Garrick (05:04):
So I ended up getting out to a Embry Riddle. I definitely was into the aviation things. So a friend of the family said, go check out Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona beach. Not a bad place to go to college.
Aaron (05:17):
And then when were you doing ATC? So I'm trying to figure out how it is. You were an ATC guy and we're not talking about you going to Combat Controller. It's crazy that you were, you already were in that world. It would seem like an easy transition. So, I'm trying to like follow those breadcrumbs to where that goes.
Garrick (05:30):
I am an oddball. I tell guys in my troop, I'm an enigma, can't pin me down. I always, I knew that I liked anything dealing with aviation and aeronautical science. And so my degree was Aeronautical Science. I was flying little Cessna, I was doing some air traffic control and then ended up getting a degree in Aeronautical Science and Communications. You I just never could make up my mind. Wanted to get a little pieces, as many little pieces as I could get. And after we riddle, I was pursuing a job as a professional pilot. I was working bring around as a flight instructor, but pilot jobs are really hard a few years after September 11th, and at the same time it had that draw that pull that to get back to the military. And early on I really enjoyed the camaraderie and the teamwork working with just kind of like-minded people all walks of life. And I think that that's the call that pulled me back to the military.
Aaron (06:35):
Okay. Yeah, it almost sounds like we were playing two truths and a lie there. Like tell me what was wrong. I was a pilot. I wanted, I was in the Army, I went to Embry Riddle. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's funny.
Trent (06:48):
Sweet. So, I mean, I know where you ended up, so you ended up being on the guard side. So you met all the dudes that told you to start training and then you got to Medina let, let's just go with the pipeline stuff first. So being an older early, we'll say early thirties, early thirties dude go into the pipeline. So we talked about this a lot. We get a ton of emails like, Hey, I'm 30, I'm 31 am I too old to join to go through the pipeline and you went through and it was hard. So maybe some of your challenges like pros and cons of being an older guy and having a ton of life experience under your belt.
PIPELINE AS AN OLD GUY
Garrick (07:24):
Yeah, it's funny because yeah, I get that talk to a lot of kids now, civil air patrol and things like that. And I think actually for one of the Combat Controllers that I interviewed with for the guard unit that I was, I was going to go to a guard Special Tactics unit starting out and he was a Senior Master Sergeant at the time and he said, look man, you're a pretty good shape. I was all into that CrossFit thing back in the day. He's like, you're in pretty good shape, but I'm going to tell you the truth. You're going to hit the wall about a year in. He's like, you can pass these calls, you're doing really good, but you're going to have to take extra special care of yourself to make sure you last these two years and he hit the nail on the head. I also can say that being older, I knew exactly what I wanted more so than a lot of the younger kids. And so even on the hardest day, I would still stop and say I'm getting paid on the first and the 15th. I'm hanging out with some of the most interesting just coolest dudes. And there were, I mean, there were kids to me, but at the same time, they're just great, great people, great guys.
Aaron (08:50):
I was not nearly as old as you. I was about five years younger than you when I went, but it was the same sort of thing. I had a lot of those same experiences. A lot of the things you're saying, I'm like, I totally felt like that. It was easy for me to strip it all away and go, hold on. I'm not at my desk writing EPRs and handle and other stuff. Right now I'm here. I get to focus on myself really like 80% of the day where at home I have to focus on everything else all the time. Here at least I get to be like I get to have a good workout session or I'm really going to get into this mobility session and feel better. So at times the pipeline was kind of like almost stress relieving in that bearing the bearing the burden of leadership so much all the time. It was actually a good thing here and there.
Garrick (09:29):
Nah. Heck yeah. Mean it's stupid things. I can remember like after the first, back then selection was what 10-12 days or so a Medina and , it was tough, but then I remember like day 12 they brought us to a running store and as a guy who grew up in the basic Army Infantry. And then even in big blue Air Force air traffic control, the fact that they were dropping $120 on a pair of Brooks, or I forget what I picked out, but I was just like, man, this is cool. I feel like I'm in the NFL, ? Week 2 sneakers month six, it's going to be battle armor and what I'm for. So I just, it was neat. And it was one of those motivational things that I was like, if this is what it's going to be like, I'm all in. And , each phase was, was always they throw the through something new at you, but at the same time it was like, I'm just learning the amount of training in an education that is imparted in just that we learn new. I love that. And I was just, I was eating it up and most of the guys in my class were the same way as, as hard as it was. It was so like, okay, what's next? I'll hold on. We're going to be working with explosives. Heck yeah. I've always wanted to blow stuff up. I mean, it was just always something like that that just kept us so motivated.
SOWT TO SR TRANSITION
Trent (11:07):
That's awesome. Yeah, I mean obviously I had my perspective of, of what it was like for you during a certain portion of the pipeline, but , I mean, I remember I relied on you to kind of keep the guys in check and it's a lot easier as an instructor to have someone like you, ? Like I'll just be like, Hey, make sure that these guys all make it to school on time. And that way I don't have to worry about it and you to take care of it, please you deal with this, don't you don't want me to deal with it, ? Yeah. So yeah, we had a pretty good time for me, I'm trying not to get done, go down like the Keesler rabbit hole. You got through the pipeline, you go back to your unit, SOWT to SR thing. So I'm always telling people the career field was not that far away from where we're going at a base basic level, what I mean when we made the transition, but kind of what was it like for you being a SOWT some of the challenges and now that we are SR and you are, you're kind of like the guy, you're the first one to actualize it as far as I know, operationally or at least help with it. I don't want to give you too much credit. Just walk us through that process. Some of your experiences.
Garrick (12:19):
Oh no, don't worry. I'm going to give myself all the credit now. I mean it was a huge culture shock. I'll just say straight up just learning the way the Air Force does things. But then even getting through that and getting to my first unit it was a heavily dominated Combat Controller, Pararescue unit and the guys that worked with funny cause they were kind of like, Hey, what can you bring to the table? And it was only a few of us at the time. This is going back 10 or 11 years. I think early on we recognize a gap. I'm a voracious reader. I really enjoy books like Not A Good Day To Die. Colonel Pete Blaber from a unit, an Army unit that kind of getting after it and always love some of the things he talked about. Whereas talking about modern battle and the unknowns on the battlefield and , strategic kind of things like we go into these places and we need to know where our enemy locations and hotspots and, and I always felt like that's something we could probably leverage, and get into places. And yet we're, we're going to go in because we want to give the commanders the picture on what the atmosphere is going to be like and what the weather's going to be like. But if we're already there, why can't we also provide them data on what routes they can use or what is the population like are the areas we're going into filled with people or is it a no man's land and we'll be completely covert. So we started early on that kind of path and, and how can we get data and push it back to higher headquarters? And that same star, same time, started to experimenting with things like small, unmanned drones, different systems that we could throw up and collect and videotape and , get all kinds of data because in the military they call it the priority intelligence requirements and it's really the script that commanders want to know what they don't know. , They have all these questions and we wanted to answer those questions. I know. And it was early on, it was a fight. It was trying to convince our own leadership like, Hey, we can get this information for you. Even if we're going in to do a meteorological mission, if we're already there, we're going to get as much information as we can get on the terrain and the infrastructure, you name it.
Trent (15:16):
Awesome. So I mean, yeah, we kind of went from that to, I mean you were, you were up in North Carolina doing your thing with the boys up there. Like is there anything else like the transition to SR, like where are we going? What happening? Global access, what does that even mean in English? What I mean? I know both of you guys have more recent experience on team with the those troops than I do. Maybe just tell people a little bit about it with within the confines of our, of our system that we're talking on right now.
Aaron (15:47):
Yeah. Instant SCIF now we're good. So I mean it's already out there. We run global access strike and recovery. Those are the three capabilities that an ST has in those. Totally. , that's out for public knowledge and no dice on the other stuff, but it is what it is. So, but Global Access is exactly what it sounds like. Can we access, remember that one of the first and foremost missions of a Combat Controller is austere airfield seizure and control, right? Like they're meant to go to those deep mission areas where it may be contested and maybe denied. They may have to get eyes on an area and observe it for a long time before they actually start working in that area. So, all of these capabilities complement each other. Having an SR guy that really is there, like imagine the weight off the Combat Controller, all he has to do is think about controlling that airfield because the SR guy has all of it planned like, Hey, here's the route, here's what we can expect along the way. Here's what it looks like and here's where I think we can leverage our capabilities the best as a unit. Like I get excited about that on my own troop because I'm like, man, I got TACPs and Controllers and SR dudes and PJ's and STOs and CROs. Man that's, there's a lot of SME at that table right there. And there's not a lot of problems. We can't solve that high level problem solving. When you start adding SR into the mix and those capabilities, it gets pretty exciting to be quite honest with you because you can start, you can start playing like little Army man pieces. It'd be like, Oh, I can totally own this area if I just had this guy with a sniper qual. Well now, we have that.
Garrick (17:16):
Awesome. I think fondest memories I had from two years ago, I transitioned to back into active duty and I was a troop chief out of North Carolina. We got hooked up doing a NTC, which is National Training Center out in California and it's traditionally a large Army exercise up to a Division-level. I think there was about 4k players for the exercise we went to, and this is big Army units, but then there's a Green Beret Company, sometimes a Battalion that's attached. So, you're talking another 300 or so folks and they're fighting an entire war with, with role-players and tanks and helicopters full on war in a training environment. And we brought our capes to the table and I was a troop chief and so I had a Combat Controllers, two Pararescuemen, and six SR and we presented to the Green Beret Commander, we want to do your recce. We want to do all your long range reconnaissance for this training mission. We can find out where the bad guys are, where the key infrastructure is, some technical technological stuff that I don't want to talk about on this podcast, but we'll do it. Green Beret Commander was very open. He said, I'll give you the shot, but Air Force, you better bring it. And I will tell you there was a few Army Colonels and a couple Army SGMs that kind of snickered like good luck Air Force. And later that, when you say three weeks later, halfway through the exercise the judges, they have a bunch of guys running around who are like the a dungeon masters of the observer controllers of the exercise. They, they kind of keep it going.
Aaron (19:21):
I'm going to call every white cell guy ever a dungeon master from now on. That's so organic. I've never thought of it. You're smarter than me. A white cell, congratulations. You're not dungeon masters.
Garrick (19:37):
So those guys came out and they said Air Force. You guys are in the penalty box. And immediately I'm on the troop chief or platoon Sergeant, whatever you want to call it. I'm like what's matter? What's going on? He's like, we have to shut you guys off because you're being too effective. We've attrited, we've killed off 90% of the enemy force and the big Army unit that was there, which was a first infantry division out of Kansas. He's like, they're not getting trained because you guys keep finding the enemy before they can get in position to attack big Army. So they actually shut us off. So at the end of it I'll, one of the more influential SGMs from the Green Beret evaluation team came over. He said, Hey man, I'm eating a lot of crow. I had money laid down with some Air Force ALO, TACP officers that you guys were going to be a his word "shit show". And he's like, man, you guys brought it like that. That was phenomenal. So I had lot of pride in that. I felt like we got to kind of show our wares and just like you said, it was SR tandem with Controllers, with Js we're finding targets and thing we're handed it over to our Combat Controller and now he's actioning these targets. He's going through, going down his kill list and just call for fire. It was pretty awesome to see Special Tactics in action and , I know we've all had experiences like that, but that's one of my favorite memories.
Trent (21:05):
I mean, is there anything more fun than shoving in someone's face.
Aaron (21:10):
You told a story about winning and then having somebody else admit that you won. Like those are two of my favorite things. That's like numbers one and three.
Trent (21:18):
One of the other questions we get a lot is why do we need an SR capability within the Air Force? And I know what I think and I know what's been put out there, but from, from your perspective, what is, I mean, I know there's a lot of stuff that we can't talk about that we get into that all these other guys don't necessarily get into. But the reason for the Air Force specific Special Reconnaissance
THE NEED FOR SR
Garrick (21:46):
Coming with a hardball question. All right, so I'm going to have to dance around this. Give me the cut sign if I starting to delve into something I can't talk about. So with SR and reconnaissance in general, we're moving very expensive pieces of hardware, aircraft and we're putting them in into these far flung places to do the types of missions that us military does that Special Operations Command does. And anytime you're going to put that type of hardware personnel, you're going to go to places that we just don't have information in data yet there. And if a commander is going to make that decision and put potentially millions of dollars’ worth of equipment on the ground, he wants situation awareness like that. It's a very scary proposition to a commander that Hey, I'm going to drop some C-130s or you name it and I know very little about this area. And again, I'll take it back to Colonel Blaber talks a lot about the Afghanistan invasion. And before those guys, the first real soft push in Afghanistan, they were getting Intel analysts who were constantly staring at satellite imagery and , basically that soda straw or maybe it was aircraft way overhead, looking down at imagery. You can only get so much from that. And they're Intel analysts telling Colonel belabors unit, Oh man, you're going to go in Afghanistan is surrounded by a ring of fire. There's anti-aircraft machines and tanks and you name it. Well low and behold, those guys got on the ground, one of the first record units out there, there were a ton of tanks littered all over the ground, but there were tanks from about 20-30 years ago from the last war. They're all destroyed. But to any imagery analysts, they couldn't tell that you didn't have that real on the ground situation awareness. So I'm loosely tying this into my answer Trent, which is that commander is always going to want as much data as he can get. And I think having an SR capability is that, is that feed.
Trent (24:41):
When we talk about it a lot, I think internally is making sure that we stay on the cutting edge of technology and maintain our awareness of what everybody's doing and our capabilities and how we get after it. What I mean? I get frustrated cause I come on and I talk about SR and I'm like, well I can't talk about this. I can't like most of the left of bangs are most effective things, but like with the way that the world is going to, to maintain our situational awareness and to understand what it is that we're getting ourselves into and then to get to employ our assets. Like you might have to put some dudes in on the ground old school way, but you're not going to put those guys on the ground if you don't know what's, what's happening before that. What I mean? To enable our aircraft and our air power to be effective in those, those regions. So, that’s kind of how I see it.
Garrick (25:37):
I definitely have a passion for recce just cause I've enjoyed it. I like it for some reason I liked sitting in hide or long periods of time and being miserable cause it's just something to that. But in all reality, I can remember when I was like 18-19 year old Forward Observer, infantry platoon and it was one of the many times we were like jumping into Fort Bragg doing the whole, you are going to invade this area and fight through a mock village and go through bunkers, yada, yada, yada. And started out as just in a basic platoon and like 12 hours before the jump they drop these hand-drawn graphics and a couple like photographs, some imagery. And they're like here's a bunker complex. This is the amount of people that are there. This is the way you guys want to go through. Cause there's like wire obstacles. And again, I'm 18 years old and I'm like, Hey sir, where are we getting all this stuff? Cause this is like on the ground stuff. He's like, Oh that's our scout platoon. We got some long range reconnaissance guys that have been out there for two days. And I remember thinking like that's amazing. That's like the answer to the problem.
Aaron (27:11):
Bad ass. You're like, Oh yeah, no you just, you just put the whole game on easy mode now that I look like I know what it looks like and I can plan for it.
Garrick (27:19):
I just, I mean I remember that early on and kind of like, I think through just being lucky and career choices and trying a little bit everything. Like that's where I think we can get to. And we've had some successes like that already in it. And definitely the quality of people coming through is just phenomenal. Like it's truly just best and brightest guys coming up through the ranks. And so yeah, that's what motivates me. Cause I think like you provide stuff like that to a maneuver unit, SOF or conventional, it's a valued thing. It's, it's really a kind of a cheat code for whatever we're going to be doing.
ATTACHING TO SISTER SERVICE
Aaron (28:04):
Is there any talk with you guys getting like going out to those, does units like TACP would or like somebody else that would have a, an RFF for a recce guy, do you think, can you see SR getting to a point where you would fill that enabler with sister service type role?
Garrick (28:19):
I mean I always have, this is Garrick Lewis opinion, but I think in today's what we're facing now when we start talking about kind of a shift in focus away from violent extremists and maybe more towards near peer great power competition, I think that supporting conventional units, large maneuver units is a natural thing. And, and Oh by the way, large conventional units like the 82nd Airborne and 10th Mountain Division, 101st Airborne, they all got rid of their long range reconnaissance really to their detriment. I read a lot and a lot of the after action reports from the last eight years for Army has a huge exercise. It's called combat training center rotations. NTC and JRTC are two of them. The number one AAR item that is repeated almost every rotation is lack of recce, lack of string priority intelligence requirements. So they made a knee jerk reaction. Again, my opinion only they made a knee jerk reaction getting rid of these reconnaissance units. But in reality I think it's benefiting us cause we're going to try to fill that gap if we haven't already in some places.
Trent (29:41):
Yeah. I mean I think the guys up at the Pentagon had an opportunity they saw they got all the reports, they put their big brains together. I don't know what happens, light comes out or whatever. And then it turns into a PowerPoint slide and it says, this is what we need. We need a highly mobile technologically proficient, reconnaissance unit. But also I think Special Tactics as a whole, like this isn't just a new thing that SR is moving towards like this. The new way of doing business. I think everybody's getting into more of that gray world again. And then we went pretty white for a long time or it was just like, Hey, find bad guy, killed bad guy, rescue people in a pretty known environment. And now we're getting back out there and becoming Special Operations again in every sense of the word. I'm sure Aaron, you see that a little bit you guys get pushed towards that direction.
Aaron (30:31):
Oh, it's a lot. It's in a lot of the messaging, the visions, the they'll come out with ST2030 or 2040 visions or things that people kind of just think about and put to paper, whether it be a white paper that was made by mid-level dudes or whatever. But those ideas are out there and it's definitely, the pendulum always swings. We were so locked into AFCENT for so long. Like I'd be, I'd be lying to you if I told you everything that we do is train in for AFCENT-centric sort of missions. Like you have to start looking to other theaters and , Africa with its unique problems like Africa is huge. Especially from a Pararescue perspective. Like we call it the tyranny of distance. You have to come up with inventive ways to get to patients. Just like we had on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. It was a the SOST has to be there in order to support operations. And that's a very niche piece of a bigger ST umbrella that we have to start, we have to start thinking about how we all mix capabilities together. And then low and behold, different mission sets will pop up. But when I have this team compliment, I can do this wide range of mission sets. And it's not just strike, it's not just sit in alert somewhere waiting for something to happen. It's not just weather it's better like a rising tide raises all boats. And I just think that's the way that a lot of these things have been going.
Trent (31:47):
Right. I mean, cause you guys might not just be rescuing people in a known area. It might be a sensitive location where you might need to get someone else to help you get along the way to help get those people out before you can. Do all your work. Yeah. So, I don't know if that's just the way, the way I see it going. I think if Garrick, you don't have anything else to say about SR in particular and the way we're heading. You want to talk about swaths a little bit? Cause that's pretty awesome. Kids love drones.
Garrick (32:17):
Yeah. I got to throw in some PJ love just because I had the privilege. I had awesome privileges too of the finest Js out of 23 on my last two deployments to Africa. And the coolest thing, cause it kind of, I think it goes in line with what we're talking about, some of the strategic impacts that these two Pararescueman made. We were doing a traditional Army unit. We were doing Foreign Internal Defense this last time around. We had a partner force and it wasn't, Hey you Air Force guys, come with us Green Berets and we'll work together with a partner force. It literally was, Hey, Air Force, you're going to have a partner force and you're going to this, this FOB by yourselves, make it happen. Train these guys on air to ground. So we did that. But what was really amazing is our Pararescueman took them through an abbreviated tactical combat casualty care course. And there were members within this counter terrorist force partner force that literally didn't realize the lifesaving steps that can be taken because, and this was a unit that was mixing it up. They were in heavy combat almost monthly and how this Pararescue just changed their attire way of fighting and training. I mean, literally they're there now cause they would get into the firefights and it was like, Hey guys, down, he's done. And then it was no, Hey, we can actually treat this guy. We can save this person's life and bring him back changed the entire methodology and I was just like, wow, that's a strategic asset right there. So completely had these guys getting into mindset.
WORDS OF ADVICE
Trent (34:51):
So we on this podcast we end up talking about a lot of prepping for the pipeline, what to expect and good advice. Right. And I think most of the guys out there, if they'd been watching the podcast have heard most of everything that Aaron and I have to say about the subjects. I always have more cause I think I'm smart. I mean from your perspective, Garrick and now it's a little unique. And I knew you and you in the pipeline, you were a student of mine. I was, you were more like my like cool uncle that just happened to be a 35 year old. I mean besides your pistol skills, I mean other than that you're pretty awesome, but like what would you tell a guy if he shows up a he, you up on Instagram or whatever and it's like, Hey man, give me advice and then what's the payoff like advice to get through and then why are you still around?
Garrick (35:47):
Oh man, I love this question cause it makes me crazy. Maybe it's cause I'm an old fart now. If you go to the gym and you are awesome at cows, pushups, pull ups and sit ups, don't go and train, push-ups, pull ups and sit ups every day. Do what you suck at. Literally when I got to my first unit and I was giving PAST tests and kids like, man, I'm awesome. I run a mile every day. I'm an awesome runner. And guess he would crush the run and then he'd get in the pool and he'd be drowning. It's easy for me cause I suck at everything that I do. Failure is a good thing. I mean really like I will tell people if you're not ready to fail and pick yourself up again, think of another career choice. It's the art of dealing with failure and respond to it and getting after it. And that's the thing the folks that thrive in the pipeline are the ones that bust their butt and when they're down, they pick themselves back up again and they try twice as hard. That is just like the spice of that entire pipeline because if there's something you're awesome at, guess what you're not going to get tested on.
Aaron (37:19):
I was never asked once, remind cyclopedia knowledge of what hair product does what? And I got to be honest with you, that was the one skill I was bringing to the table. Like I'm not bad at double unders and I know what hair product works best on dudes. I don't know, man.
Aaron (37:34):
I honestly thought that was the PJ pipeline. It's a lot of it, but unfortunately it's not evaluated. It's a prereq. You're expected to know it coming in and I didn't know.
Trent (37:43):
So yeah man. You've been in for a while. You've, you've had 40 different jobs before you got into the military, you're still sticking around. You're an SR dude. I don't know from personal experience that we have, when we need an answer as a community and that's a small community. Your phone blows up, but like why are you sticking around? What's the payoff? We're all getting a little old, so it is what it is. But what's keeping you around? What I mean?
Garrick (38:13):
I have no friends.
Aaron (38:15):
Yeah, that's perfect. I don't have any options. That's what's keeping me around.
Garrick (38:22):
I think because I've had a chance to do a lot and live a little bit 43 years later, I freaking love this gig. And on my worst day I'm like every day is different. My cousins going to Embry riddle right now. I pushed him, my Alma mater, so he's out at Embry Riddle. He came out to visit me and I brought him with me to the unit I'm with right now. Happened to go out to the wind tunnel. So we're flying in a wind tunnel, God knows what was dropped for four hours a tunnel time at iFly, I'm not endorsing them.
Aaron (39:07):
Shout out just a local patron and love you, but not endorsement.
Garrick (39:16):
Here's my 18 year old cousin. That's what you do. That's your day at work today. Practicing skydiving and it just, it's always something different. And then at the same time, like it's family. I mean, I'll have a wife and I have a son. I got a mom and a dad and I love him to death. But I also got an entire family of knuckleheads like myself and have been through thick and thin with in training and real world. And it's a real dude love. But it, but it's a neat thing, ? And I probably like it a lot because I mean it's just a, it's a neat thing to have a crew that has your back, you have theirs. And I love it. I mean I joke around when they're going to have to drag me out. I'll be hitting people with my cane as it tried to pull me out. It keeps me young. Yeah,
Trent (40:18):
For sure. All right. I think that's perfect. And, and man, Aaron you got any final words before we wrap this up?
Aaron (40:24):
No man, I just want to say thanks Garrick. Thanks for coming onto the podcast. Thanks for getting the word about SR out there. I know it's in a whole bunch of changes, but man, I appreciate it having one of the guys that's leading that change and is that charge. So man, I hope a whole lot of other cats that were on the fence kind of get behind you and get SR healthy so we can see what you guys can be. It's awesome working with you, man.
Trent (40:45):
Sure. Obviously , I love you. So it is what it is. Spurberry Police for life. Everybody, thanks for, thanks for logging on. Thanks for watching. Thanks for support in the podcast. If you have any questions, comments, concerns, shoot Aaron's way, he loves answering that stuff or Peaches and go out and buy the Peaches shirts, it's pretty legit. If you have any questions about anything like, just let us know and thanks for watching Garrick. Thank you for everything. Ones Ready signing off. We'll see you next time. Earn each breath, train hard.
SPECIAL THANKS TO GARRICK FOR MAKING THIS EPISODE POSSIBLE.
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